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Lil Miss Mouse

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Support for Cushy Pen
« on: November 10, 2011, 09:44:17 am »

No no, this isn't a call to support it but rather a discussion of why people have such a huge rage-face over the idea of supporting Cushy Pen.


For those that don't know, Cushy Pen is an art website where artists like Carotte, MifMaf and now my roommate, RoninKagashi are having their art displayed exclusively on the site and members who wanna see it pay a monthly fee for that sort of thing (i.e., it's like a lot of other porn sites you'd pay money for).

Now, despite the fact that it's -just- getting started, it's still nice to see that there art is good enough to have people pay to see it on a regular basis. And yet, I'm seeing so many people turn into Complainey McDouchebags over how this is such an awful thing.

Hell, I saw one person actually said that Ronin should just get a fucking job and make art in her spare time for them. Apart from that sounding incredibly selfish, there's also the fact that Cushy Pen IS a job. It has an Employer, Mif Maf. She gets paid a share of the profits, i.e. a salary. And she provides a service by putting her images up there. That's a job if I've ever heard of one.


So seriously, why the fuck do people have such a huge problem with this? Is it really just because we're asking them to pay a little to fap to their artwork, or is it something more?
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Re: Support for Cushy Pen
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2011, 12:36:41 pm »

People in this community don't like paying for shit. It's that simple, IMO.

Just look at FapChan or SAFF. Those forums are full of free ABDL porn.
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Re: Support for Cushy Pen
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2011, 01:43:38 pm »

I agree with, Kip and you gotta consider that alot of people in our community are tweens/teens, and thus are lible to bitch about anything that requires a Credit Card merely cuz they don't have one
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Re: Support for Cushy Pen
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2011, 02:32:59 am »

Or in my case, a limited income and no desire to pay money for AB art or pics on the net.  Plus, my extra cash is devoted to trying to get a copy of Modern Warfare 3, Need for Speed The Run and Madden NFL 12 for my XBox 360.  I just have other things I'd rather spend my money on than a monthly subscription. 

Plus, in this economy people don't have the extra money to spend.  That's why I haven't bought a new video game in a while or even anything else for myself.   

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Re: Support for Cushy Pen
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2011, 09:50:18 pm »

Or in my case, a limited income and no desire to pay money for AB art or pics on the net.  Plus, my extra cash is devoted to trying to get a copy of Modern Warfare 3, Need for Speed The Run and Madden NFL 12 for my XBox 360.  I just have other things I'd rather spend my money on than a monthly subscription. 

Plus, in this economy people don't have the extra money to spend.  That's why I haven't bought a new video game in a while or even anything else for myself.   

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The issue is that there are folks not able to pay, but that people are bitching BECAUSE its a pay site.
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Re: Support for Cushy Pen
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2011, 10:08:50 pm »

And there is that too... lol.  I don't much care for paysites myself as I have spent money on them and on some of them, not gotten what I paid for.  For me, I just wanted to explain why I won't pay for Cushy Pen.  After some experiences I have decided paysites ain't worth the money to me anymore. 

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Re: Support for Cushy Pen
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2011, 07:55:18 am »

I think a lot  of it is simply that people's favourite artists that they have enjoyed for free for however long are asking them for money for it, which is new and undesirable, so they're complaining.
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Re: Support for Cushy Pen
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2011, 10:04:15 am »

Actually....RoninKagashi and many artists on cushypen have -already- been asking for money in the form of commissions.
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Re: Support for Cushy Pen
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2011, 11:08:22 am »

Yes, but there's a difference between commissions where you're paying to have them draw what you want and paying just to see stuff they decided to draw.
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Re: Support for Cushy Pen
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2011, 11:27:30 pm »

What about the fact that you don't even get access to all of the art with a subscription?

Now, I know why Mif did that, and I can't really blame her. Still, that whole que thing is really quite annoying for honest paying customers.
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Re: Support for Cushy Pen
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2011, 11:45:37 pm »

What about the fact that you don't even get access to all of the art with a subscription?

Now, I know why Mif did that, and I can't really blame her. Still, that whole que thing is really quite annoying for honest paying customers.

This is not true. I'm assuming you know why Mif did this but the way you worded it is basically misinformation.

You DO in fact get access to -all- the art, just not all at once. The reason for this is to prevent people from paying for one month, going in and saving everything, and then canceling their membership.
 
However, yes, I do disagree with this tactic as well considering it's unnecessary if they keep updating new images onto the site.
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Re: Support for Cushy Pen
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2011, 02:55:37 pm »

Or in my case, a limited income and no desire to pay money for AB art or pics on the net.

Plus, in this economy people don't have the extra money to spend.  That's why I haven't bought a new video game in a while or even anything else for myself.   

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Same here mate, if I ever do have any money, it usually winds up going towards groceries, clothing, entertainment etc, not to mention I can't use my PayPal anymore since my bank shut down my account for excessive fines.

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Re: Support for Cushy Pen
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2011, 09:10:42 pm »

I have absolutely no problem with someone wanting to be paid for sharing their talent. They have as many (or more) money problems as anyone else, so what is wrong with asking those who we share our work with for a little something for that time? I myself am looking at ways in which I can make something from what I can do, because frankly, I'm all tapped out.
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Re: Support for Cushy Pen
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2011, 08:02:34 pm »

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This is not true. I'm assuming you know why Mif did this but the way you worded it is basically misinformation.

You DO in fact get access to -all- the art, just not all at once. The reason for this is to prevent people from paying for one month, going in and saving everything, and then canceling their membership.
 
However, yes, I do disagree with this tactic as well considering it's unnecessary if they keep updating new images onto the site.

I know I'm late to the party here, but has Mif stated this happens BEFORE you actually buy yet?  Or are most people learning about it from other sites, or after they pay? 

That's dirty pool.  That should be on the front page.

No.  You don't get access to all the art.  You buy access to the site, and get SOME of the art, then -if- and ONLY -if- you buy again do you get access to more.

Do you know why after I downloaded thousands of pics from ABS I kept my sub going for months? (past tense now sadly)  Because every week hundreds more images were posted, that would keep me paying.  New art should keep people paying.  Not holding previous art ransom.

If the only way you have to keep people paying is to refuse them access to older art till they pay more then you have a problem.  If you want to run a subscription site, better put the work into it.

I don't know how it's set up, but I would sign the artists up for "X" number of new pics a week, and if they didn't make it, they would not get their cut.  Slap it all in a contract.  Before you open the site have dozens of pics ready to go right out of the gate, and a one week buffer of art just in case an artist pulls a boner.  I know it sounds cold, but Cushy Pen is a business venture, one that could create more art by freeing artists from having to work a second job.  If ABS and others can make a mint selling the same sets with different women, then Cushy pen should be just fine with the awesome artists they have. 
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